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Friday, April 4, 2025

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A Letter Concerning Toleration by John Locke 

Translated by William Popple [1689] 

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DAY 31

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G here, Extra Addition "A Letter if Concerning Toleration," Day 31,

Page 16b of pdf. 17a : to restore me in any measure, much less entirely, to a good estate. What security can be given for the Kingdom of Heaven? fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter Concerning Toleratin PDF.pdf The individual's right to seek salvation, like medical help for an ailing body, is his free choice. Those things that Every man ought sincerely to inquire into himself and, by meditation, study, search, and his own endeavours, attain the knowledge of, cannot be looked upon as the peculiar possession of any sort of men. 

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Princes, indeed, are born superior unto other men in power, but in nature equal. Neither the right nor the art of ruling does necessarily carry along with it the certain knowledge of other things, and least of all of true religion. For if it were so, how could it come to pass that the lords of the earth should differ so vastly as they do in religious matters? But let us grant that it is probable the way to eternal life may be better known by a prince than by his subjects, or at least that in this incertitude of things the safest and most commodious way for private persons is to follow his dictates. You will say: “What then?” If he should bid you follow merchandise for your livelihood, would you decline that course for fear it should not succeed? I answer: I would turn merchant upon the prince’s command, because, in case I should have ill-success in trade, he is abundantly able to make up my loss some other way. If it be true, as he pretends, that he desires I should thrive and grow rich, he can set me up again when unsuccessful voyages have broken me. But this is not the case in the things that regard the life to come; if there I take a wrong course, if in that respect I am once undone, it is not in the magistrate’s power to repair my loss, to ease my suffering, nor to restore me in any measure, much less entirely, to a good estate. What security can be given for the Kingdom of Heaven?

DAY 32

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o restore me in any measure, much less entirely, to a good estate. What security can be given for the Kingdom of Heaven? Perhaps some will say that they do not suppose this infallible judgement, that all men are bound to follow in the affairs of religion, to be in the civil magistrate, but in the Church. What the Church has determined, that the civil magistrate orders to be observed; and he provides by his authority that nobody shall either act or believe in the business of religion otherwise than the Church teaches. So that the judgement of those things is in the Church; the magistrate himself yields obedience thereunto and requires the like obedience from others. I answer: Who sees not how frequently the name of the Church, which was venerable in time of the apostles, has been made use of to throw dust in the people’s eyes in the following ages? But, however, in the present case it helps us not. The one only narrow way which leads to heaven is not better known to the magistrate than to private persons, and therefore I cannot safely take him for my guide, who may probably be as ignorant of the way as myself, and who certainly is less concerned for my salvation than I myself am. Amongst so many kings of the Jews, how many of them were there whom any Israelite, thus blindly following, had not fallen into idolatry and thereby into destruction? Yet, nevertheless, you bid me be of good courage and tell me that all is now safe and secure, because the magistrate does not now enjoin the observance of his own decrees in matters of religion, but only the decrees of the Church. Of what Church, I beseech you? of that, certainly, which likes him best. As if he that compels me by laws and penalties to enter into this or the other Church, did not interpose his own judgement in the matter. 
DAY 33

PG here, Sunday, April 6, 2025. The topic is, should anyone submit their will to another person for salvation? Can the law or magistrate demand a certain religion over another? Socinians were members of a 16th and 17th-century Christian group, named after the Italian theologian Faustus Socinus, who rejected the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, and other traditional Christian doctrines, emphasizing reason and moral living. `Church Papist' was a nickname, a term of abuse, for those English Catholics who outwardly conformed to the established Protestant Church and yet inwardly remained Roman Catholics.
Quote: 17b:  What difference is there whether he lead me himself, or deliver me over to be led by others? I depend both ways upon his will, and it is he that determines both ways of my eternal state. Would an Israelite that had worshipped Baal upon the command of his king have been in any better condition because somebody had told him that the king ordered nothing in religion upon his own head, nor commanded anything to be done by his subjects in divine worship but what was approved by the counsel of priests, and declared to be of divine right by the doctors of their Church? If the religion of any Church become, therefore, true and saving, because the head of that sect, the prelates and priests, and those of that tribe, do all of them, with all their might, extol and praise it, what religion can ever be accounted erroneous, false, and destructive? I am doubtful concerning the doctrine of the Socinians, I am suspicious of the way of worship practised by the Papists, or Lutherans; will it be ever a jot safer for me to join either unto the one or the other of those Churches, upon the magistrate’s command, because he commands nothing in religion but by the authority and counsel of the doctors of that Church? But, to speak the truth, we must acknowledge that the Church (if a convention of clergymen, making canons, must be called by that name) is for the most part more apt to be influenced by the Court than the Court by the church.

DAY 34

PG here, April 7, 2025, Monday, Day 34 Martin Luther of the Reformation. Wrote the first Declaration of Independence from the Catholic Church with 95 wrongs the church was doing called The 95 Theses" in 1517. It is called Reformation Day. October 31. He testified before a court: "I can not recant; I will not recant (his writings and pamphlets). To do so is to go against my conscience, and that is a very dangerous thing." John Locke is expressing the same TRUTH of the gospel of Jesus Christ, who delivers us and sets us free from sin. The bottom sentence here, ***"No way whatsoever that I shall walk in against the dictates of my conscience will ever bring me to the mansions of the blessed."***
The "vicissitude of orthodox and Arian emperors" refers to the fluctuating fortunes and political shifts experienced by emperors who supported either orthodox Nicene Christianity or the Arian heresy, particularly in the 4th century, with emperors like Constantine and Constantius playing pivotal roles. 
vicissitude: a change of circumstances or fortune, typically one that is unwelcome or unpleasant.
How the Church was under the vicissitude of orthodox and Arian emperors is very well known. Or if those things be too remote, our modern English history affords us fresh examples in the reigns of Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary, and Elizabeth, how easily and smoothly the clergy changed their decrees, their articles of faith, their form of worship, everything according to the inclination of those kings and queens. Yet were those kings and queens of such different minds in point of religion, and enjoined thereupon such different things, that no man in his wits (I had almost said none but an atheist) will presume to say that any sincere and upright worshipper of God could, with a safe conscience, obey their several decrees. To conclude, it is the same thing whether a king that prescribes laws to another man’s religion pretend to do it by his own judgement, or by the ecclesiastical authority and advice of others. The decisions of churchmen, whose differences and disputes are sufficiently known, cannot be any sounder or safer than his; nor can all their suffrages joined together add a new strength to the civil power. Though this also must be taken notice of—that princes seldom have any regard to the suffrages of ecclesiastics that are not favourers of their own faith and way of worship. But, after all, the principal consideration, and which absolutely determines this controversy, is this: Although the magistrate’s opinion in religion be sound, and the way that he appoints be truly Evangelical, yet, if I be not thoroughly persuaded thereof in my own mind, there will be no safety for me in following it. No way whatsoever that I shall walk in against the dictates of my conscience will ever bring me to the mansions of the blessed. 

PG here, Day 35 Page 18b, according to the pdf of our Extra Addition. "A Letter Concerning Toleration." Considerations from John Locke. PG here, April 8, 2025. I have been sharing 1/2 a page a day. I loved the opening sentence here in 18b. And when you are really close to God and all the people you know are, people speak this way by the unction of the Holy Spirit. When all the laws and people are Christian, as America is. No way whatsoever that I shall walk in against the dictates of my conscience will ever bring me to the mansions of the blessed. If you know it is wrong, it would be great harm to you if you did what you knew to be wrong. The blessed are people who died and went to heaven. Jesus said he has built each person a mansion in heaven to live in for eternity. Jesus's earthly father was Joseph, a carpenter. Maybe you know a contractor or a person who builds homes, a construction worker.
 ....   No way whatsoever that I shall walk in against the dictates of my conscience will ever bring me to the mansions of the blessed. I may grow rich by an art that I take not delight in; I may be cured of some disease by remedies that I have not faith in; but I cannot be saved by a religion that I distrust and by a worship that I abhor. It is in vain for an unbeliever to take up the outward show of another man’s profession. Faith only and inward sincerity are the things that procure acceptance with God. The most likely and most approved remedy can have no effect upon the patient, if his stomach reject it as soon as taken; and you will in vain cram a medicine down a sick man’s throat, which his particular constitution will be sure to turn into poison. In a word, whatsoever may be doubtful in religion, yet this at least is certain, that no religion which I believe not to be true can be either true or profitable unto me. In vain, therefore, do princes compel their subjects to come into their Church communion, under pretence of saving their souls. If they believe, they will come of their own accord, if they believe not, their coming will nothing avail them. How great soever, in fine, may be the pretence of good-will and charity, and concern for the salvation of men’s souls, men cannot be forced to be saved whether they will or no. And therefore, when all is done, they must be left to their own consciences. Having thus at length freed men from all dominion over one another in matters of religion, let us now consider what they are to do. All men know and acknowledge that God ought to be publicly worshipped; 

DAY 36

1.) PG here, Day 36, Pages 19, 20 and 21 of 40 according to the PDF. I got behind because I was running a yard sale. Worshipping God with others. John Locke uses the words "Own it" in 1680s. Yes, own it; do not be ashamed that you worship God with other believers. In peace and Holiness. This worship is nothing like worship of God today. Page 19: excerpt....Men, therefore, constituted in this liberty are to enter into some religious society, that they meet together, not only for mutual edification, but to own to the world that they worship God and offer unto His Divine Majesty such service as they themselves are not ashamed of and such as they think not unworthy of Him, nor unacceptable to Him; and, finally, that by the purity of doctrine, holiness of life, and decent form of worship, they may draw others unto the love of the true religion, and perform such other things in religion as cannot be done by each private man apart. These religious societies I call Churches; .......

DAY 36

2.) PG here Page 20 of 40 according to the PDF. Extra Addition of John Locke's Letter of Consideration. Divine Worship can not be ordered by law. It must be done by a person conscience. The same with Baptism. Page 20 of 40 according to pdf: excerpt: Again, things in their own nature indifferent cannot, by any human authority, be made any part of the worship of God—for this very reason: because they are indifferent. For, since indifferent things are not capable, by any virtue of their own, to propitiate the Deity, no human power or authority can confer on them so much dignity and excellency as to enable them to do it. In the common affairs of life that use of indifferent things which God has not forbidden is free and lawful, and therefore in those things human authority has place. But it is not so in matters of religion. Things indifferent are not otherwise lawful in the worship of God than as 
they are instituted by God Himself and as He, by some positive command, has ordained them to be made a part of that worship which He will vouchsafe to accept at the hands of poor sinful men. Nor, when an incensed Deity shall ask us, “Who has required these, or such-like things at your hands?” will it be enough to answer Him that the magistrate commanded them. If civil jurisdiction extend thus far, what might not lawfully be introduced into religion?
DAY 36

3.) PG here. Worshipping God as a relationship to him can not be ordered by the law. That last sentence of 21 od 40....In the next place: As the magistrate has no power to impose by his laws the use of any rites and ceremonies in any Church, so neither has he any...another excerpt: He that worships God does it with design to please Him and procure His favour. But that cannot be done by him who, upon the command of another, offers unto God that which he knows will be displeasing to Him, because not commanded by Himself. This is not to please God, or appease his wrath, but willingly and knowingly to provoke Him by a manifest contempt
PG here, Extra Addition "A Letter if Concerning Toleration," Day 37,
DAY 37

Page 22 of 40 of the PDF. If you are following along in the book "John Locke's "The Second Treatise of Government And A Letter Concerning Toleration," Dover Thrifty Edition, we are on page 135 in the middle of the second paragraph. I am using a PDF to copy and paste. This page deals with an issue Americans struggle with today. Religious Freedom. It has been twisted to allow gruesome murders, molestations, sex trafficking, and mutilations of children. All are abominations to true law, which is to protect each person's, even a woman's or child's, right to themselves, their minds, goods, preservation of their life, liberty, freedom, and body. No one has a right to molest or do harm to another being. Anywhere in the entire world. excerpt: In the next place: As the magistrate has no power to impose by his laws the use of any rites and ceremonies in any Church, so neither has he any***You will say, by this rule, if some congregations should have a mind to sacrifice infants, or (as the primitive Christians were falsely accused) lustfully pollute themselves in promiscuous uncleanness, or practise any other such heinous enormities, is the magistrate obliged to tolerate them, because they are committed in a religious assembly? I answer: No. These things are not lawful in the ordinary course of life, nor in any private house; and therefore neither are they so in the worship of God or in any religious meeting. But, indeed, if any people congregated upon account of religion should be desirous to sacrifice a calf, I deny that that ought to be prohibited by a law. Meliboeus, whose calf it is, may lawfully kill his calf at home, and burn any part of it that he thinks fit. For no injury is thereby done to any one, no prejudice to another man’s goods. And for the same reason he may kill his calf also in a religious meeting. Whether the doing so be well-pleasing to God or no, it is their part to consider that do it. The part of the magistrate is only to take care that the commonwealth receive no prejudice, and that there be no injury done to any man, either in life or estate***


DAY 38

And thus what may be spent on a feast may be spent on a sacrifice. But if peradventure such were the state of things that the interest of the commonwealth required all slaughter of beasts should be forborne for some while, in order to the increasing of the stock of cattle that had been destroyed by some extraordinary murrain, who sees not that the magistrate, in such a case, may forbid all his subjects to kill any calves for any use whatsoever? Only it is to be observed that, in this case, the law is not made about a religious, but a political matter; nor is the sacrifice, but the slaughter of calves, thereby prohibited. By this we see what difference there is between the Church and the Commonwealth. Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth cannot be prohibited by the magistrate in the Church. Whatsoever is permitted unto any of his subjects for their ordinary use, neither can nor ought to be forbidden by him to any sect of people for their religious uses. If any man may lawfully take bread or wine, either sitting or kneeling in his own house, the law ought not to abridge him of the same liberty in his religious worship; though in the Church the use of bread and wine be very different and be there applied to the mysteries of faith and rites of Divine worship. But those things that are prejudicial to the commonweal of a people in their ordinary use and are, therefore, forbidden by laws, those things ought not to be permitted to Churches in their sacred rites. Only the magistrate ought always to be very careful that he do not misuse his authority to the oppression of any Church, under pretence of public good. It may be said: “What if a Church be idolatrous, is that also to be tolerated

DAY  39

PG here, Thursday, 17, 2025, Extra Addition "A Letter if Concerning Toleration," Day 38, Page 23a of the PDF. The question is about giving the government power to make laws and rules concerning religion. How disastrous that would be? Page 23a of 40 It may be said: “What if a Church be idolatrous, is that also to be tolerated by the magistrate?” I answer: What power can be given to the magistrate for the suppression of an idolatrous Church, which may not in time and place be made use of to the ruin of an orthodox one? For it must be remembered that the civil power is the same everywhere, and the religion of every prince is orthodox to himself. If, therefore, such a power be granted unto the civil magistrate in spirituals as that at Geneva, for example, he may extirpate, by violence and blood, the religion which is

there reputed idolatrous, by the same rule another magistrate, in some neighbouring country, may oppress the reformed religion and, in India, the Christian. The civil power can either change everything in religion, according to the prince’s pleasure, or it can change nothing. If it be once permitted to introduce anything into religion by the means of laws and penalties, there can be no bounds put to it, but it will in the same manner be lawful to alter everything, according to that rule of truth which the magistrate has framed unto himself. No man whatsoever ought, therefore, to be deprived of his terrestrial enjoyments upon account of his religion. Not even Americans, subjected unto a Christian prince, are to be punished either in body or goods for not embracing our faith and worship. If they are persuaded that they please God in observing the rites of their own country and that they shall obtain happiness by that means, they are to be left unto God and themselves. Let us trace this matter to the bottom. Thus it is: An inconsiderable and weak number of Christians, destitute of everything, arrive in a Pagan country; these foreigners beseech the inhabitants, by the bowels of humanity, that they would succour them with the necessaries of life; those necessaries are given them, habitations are granted, and they all join together and grow up into one body of people.

DAY 40

DAY 41

PG here, an extra addition of 3 days, April 18, 19, and 20, for an Easter gift that correlates with this morning's readings of John Locke's "Second Treatise on Government and A Letter of Toleration." On Sunday, April 20, 2025. Both are pointing out the source of power of government. The government receives its power from the people to represent them, not corporations, nor special interests, nor receiving bribes, nor their own interests and their families, relatives, friends, etc. We can not individually go to the seat of government; there are too many people, so we elect people to go for all of us. They can not give that power to anyone else.

DAY 42

Please read each picture to get the message given here by John Locke. A government can embrace Christianity, Christian principles, and ways of government. But those who forsake public worship, observants of Christian holidays like Easter and Christmas, and good works can not be punished by governments.

Friday, March 21, 2025

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Sunday, March 2, 2025

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A Letter Concerning Toleration by John Locke 

Translated by William Popple [1689] 

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DAY 19

DAY 19, March 21, 2025, Page 9b of 40, Pages based on pdf

***A Letter Concerning Toleration,*** Author John Locke.

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Extra Addition to John Locke's Second Treatise of Civil Government. The second half of the book is A Letter Concerning Toleration. The first book on government is founded on this letter. Real, true Christianity is biblical. It is not today's Christianity.

I will only mind those that contend so
earnestly for the decrees of their own society,
and that cry out continually, 

They cry, The Church, The Church! 

It is not made up of arbitrary rules, laws, and doctrines—false teachings of mere men because evil men are counterfeiting money.

The Bible does not give the church the right to persecute others.

I.E., fire, sword, and compulsory punishments if they join their faith and live by their doctrines.......The end of a religious society (as has already been said) is the public worship of God and, by means thereof, the acquisition of eternal life...... The church cannot get people to give what they have to them. .........Nothing ought nor can be transacted in this society relating to the possession of civil and worldly goods.... ..... That punishment is for the magistrate..... For force belongs wholly to the civil magistrate, and the possession of all outward goods is subject to his jurisdiction.........

Men join civil or political government for the protection of their possessions and property.


Arms or weapons of the church are......The arms by which the members of this society are to be kept within their duty are exhortations, admonitions, and advices. If by these means the offenders will not be reclaimed and the erroneous convinced, there remains nothing further to be done but that such stubborn and obstinate persons, who give no ground to hope for their reformation, should be cast out and separated from society.








DAY 20 PAGE 10b OF 40

Sunday, March 23, 2025, Good morning, PG Here. "A Letter Concerning Toleration," by John Locke, 1689. This is the explanation of our first Amendment rights to freedom of religion. Free to worship where and how you choose. Not freedom of any religion. The religion (a set of beliefs, idealogy) must be in the bounds of a Christian society under God within the Kingdom of God on earth. According to the Declaration of Independence, all men must acknowledge Almighty God as our creator and men's rights that come from God through Jesus Christ. Everything in the world comes from ***God,*** our creator. Government is a work of the Holy Spirit of God. It is a ministry, being a servant of the people, a calling. You must be called by God in the ministry of the work of operations, administration, facilitation, settling disputes between people, executing justice, making laws and punishments that are from God that are fair and just, equally applied to all men, etc. Punishment must convict men of their sins and crimes. Put convicted by the Holy Spirit criminals away from others so they do not harm anyone else. This isolation from society will have them think about the wrong they did and how it harmed others. Knowing they are not coming out of punishment until they know what they did was wrong, show real, true remorse. Prove to have become a man of his word, then swear to never harm someone else. Repenting, turning men away from a life of crime to God, is what criminal punishment is for. ..Laws, rules, and administrations: The word ministry is in administrations that are based on men's free rights according to nature. If they were free on a mountain, no one else would be around them. According to the laws their Creator has put in place to feed and clothe them and to go forth to populate the earth, providing for their offspring as men and wives for life. ..The people in the government are a part of the church. The office of administration and operations comes out of men's hearts that worship God freely in the congregation,{an assembly of citizens, the ecclesia, the separated ones, the church,} at home with their families, every day work, and calling. It comes out of their love of God, worship of God, and faithfully following his commandments to preach the good news, the gospel of Jesus Christ. Propagation of; The earlier fathers called ***the furtherance of the Kingdom of God*** on this earth. Jesus being our King, and we are in his kingdom. Revelation 21: The New Jersusalem. The seat of God on earth. It is within us. John Locke has been distinguishing between the government and its rights to punish men and actually take their property from them if they receive it illegally. Also as a punishment for harm to others. The church does not have compulsory power like the government or magistrate. The worst punishment is excommunicating a person. No one will talk to the person any more, nor can he worship God with them. John Locke; "For all force (as has often been said) belongs only to the magistrate, nor ought any private persons at any time to use force, unless it be in self-defence against unjust violence." Luke 17:21 1599 Geneva Bible Jesus is speaking: 21 Neither shall men say, Lo here, or lo there: for behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Matthew 6:10 Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Matthew 12:28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Colossians 1:13 He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son, 1 Corinthians 4:20 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition 20 For the kingdom of God consists of and is based on not talk but power (moral power and excellence of soul).
Day 21

March 24, 2025,  Page 11a out of 40 according to pdf  Day 21

PG here. denizen: 1.an inhabitant or occupant of a particular place. "denizens of field and forest" 2.a foreigner allowed certain rights in the adopted country. Monday Night: March 24, 2025, page 11a of 40 pages on the  pdf. 
http://fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter%20Concerning%20Toleratin%20PDF.pdf 
Excommunication is stopping a person from worshipping and taking the Lord's Supper, communion with the particular group of people. Outside this society, this person cannot be harmed in life, liberty, property, or even in service. Those matters of punishment are the purpose of political or civil government, which the magistrate is to attend to. Knowing this person has done you no harm. He is in error in his salvation; he will suffer every day; he will be miserable in this life and in the afterlife for eternity. 
Day 22

March 25, 2025, 11b of 40 pages, 
according to pdf 
Day 22, 





March 25, 2025, 11b of 40 pages, according to pdf Day 22, ...the mutual toleration of private persons differing from one another in religion.... No one has jurisdiction over another person of a different religion. .................no, not even when the civil magistrate (as it sometimes happens) comes to be of this or the other communion. For the civil government can give no new right to the church, nor the church to the civil government. What I say concerning the mutual toleration of private persons differing from one another in religion, I understand also of particular churches which stand, as it were, in the same relation to each other as private persons among themselves: nor has any one of them any manner of jurisdiction over any other; no, not even when the civil magistrate (as it sometimes happens) comes to be of this or the other communion. For the civil government can give no new right to the church, nor the church to the civil government. So that, whether the magistrate join himself to any church, or separate from it, the church remains always as it was before—a free and voluntary society. It neither requires the power of the sword by the magistrate’s coming to it, nor does it lose the right of instruction and excommunication by his going from it. This is the fundamental and immutable right of a spontaneous society—that it has power to remove any of its members who transgress the rules of its institution; but it cannot, by the accession of any new members, acquire any right of jurisdiction over those that are not joined with it. And therefore peace, equity, and friendship are always mutually to be observed by particular churches, in the same manner as by private persons, without any pretence of superiority or jurisdiction over one another. 

DAY 23

PG here: Excerpt from page 5b, of 40 according to the PDF. Day 8, Monday, March 10th, 2025

It is a reminder of what we are learning, our true freedoms, and what we are fighting for. A society free from wickedness, filthiness, dirty-minded people, and slothfulness. We turn from and fight to be a good, honest society. More importantly, wholesome for the common good, happiness, fairness, justice, and equality of all men. Which comes from Almighty God to those who have turned from a life of crime, sin, licentiousness, dirty-mindedness, and lying. Men who have turned to God to be cleansed from all dirtiness of mind, soul, and body, all corruption, and defilement of the flesh.


These good, clean, pure people join and unite in society to love one another, for it is our Christian moral right, duty, and responsibility to worship God freely and protect ***The commonwealth seems to me to be a society of men constituted only for the procuring, preserving, and advancing of their own civil interests. Civil interests I call life, liberty, health, and indolency of body; and the possession of outward things, such as money, lands, houses, furniture, and the like.***

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Today's reading will take today and tomorrow to write about. It is about supposing, as an example, happenings in two churches in the 1600s. In Constantinople and who has the rights and responsibilities in the church.

Today's reading is 12b of 40......excerpt: the one of Arminians, the other of Calvinists—residing in the city of Constantinople. Will anyone say that either of these churches has right to deprive the members of the other of their estates and liberty (as we see practised elsewhere) because of their differing from it in some some doctrines and ceremonies, .................. fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter%20Concerning%20Toleratin%20PDF.pdf

DAY 24

The church should not persecute other churches in Christ's kingdom on this earth. And civil government can not give that power that it does not have to a church the person in charge favors. PG here, Thursday, March 27, 2025, Day Page 12b of 40 according to pdf. Add to yesterday's post on two churches as an example.
....12b: So that the controversy between these churches about the truth of their doctrines and the purity of their worship is on both sides equal; nor is there any judge, either at Constantinople or elsewhere upon earth, by whose sentence it can be
determined. The decision on that question belongs only to the Supreme Judge of all men, to whom also alone belongs the punishment of the erroneous. In the meantime, let those men consider how heinously they sin, who, adding injustice, if not to their error, yet certainly to their pride, do rashly and arrogantly take upon them to misuse the servants of another master, who are not at all accountable to them.............
{commentary: The civil government and heathens have no authority over a church, nor does one church have any authority over another. }
paragraph 2...................An infidel, who has himself no authority to punish Christians for the articles of their faith, cannot confer such an authority upon any society of Christians, nor give unto them a right which he has not himself. This would be the case at Constantinople; and the reason of the thing is the same in any Christian kingdom. The civil power is the same in every place. Nor can that power, in the hands of a Christian prince, confer
any greater authority upon the Church than in the hands of a heathen;which is to say, just none at all.

DAY 25

PG HERE, Extra Addition John Locke's Government Treatise: A Letter Concerning Toleration

March 28, 2025 Page 13a of 40
Pages based on pdf DAY 25 fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Ph Concerning Toleratin PDF.pdf
Nevertheless, it is worthy to be observed and lamented that the most violent of these defenders of the truth, the opposers of errors, the exclaimers against schism do hardly ever let loose this their zeal for God, with which they are so warmed and inflamed, unless where they have the civil magistrate on their side. But so soon as ever court favour has giventhem the better end of the staff, and they begin to feel themselves the stronger, then presently peace and charity are to be laid aside. Otherwise they are religiously to be observed. Where they have not the power to carry on persecution and to become masters, there they desire to live upon fair terms and preach up toleration. When they are not strengthened with the civil power, then they can bear most patiently and unmovedly the contagion of idolatry, superstition, and heresy in their neighbourhood; of which on other occasions the interest of religion makes them to be extremely apprehensive. They do not forwardly attack those errors which are in fashion at court or are countenanced by the government. Here they can be content to spare their arguments; which yet (with their leave) is the only right method of propagating truth, which has no such way of prevailing as when strong arguments and good reason are joined with the softness of civility and good usage.

Nobody, therefore, in fine, neither single persons nor churches, nay, nor even commonwealths, have any just title to invade the civil rights and worldly goods of each other upon pretence of religion. Those that are of another opinion would do well to consider with themselves how pernicious a seed of discord and war, how powerful a provocation to endless hatreds, rapines, and slaughters they thereby furnish unto mankind. No peace and security, no, not so much as common friendship, can ever be established or preserved amongst men so long as this opinion prevails, that dominion is founded in grace and that religion is to be propagated by force of arms.

Day 27

The Great 2025 Silver Squeeze Day. PG here. Monday, March 31, 14b, according to the pdf.
fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter Concerning Toleratin PDF.pdf Extra addition to John Locke's "Second Treatise of Government and Letter Concerning Toleration." PG here. I started copying and pasting 1 page of John Locke a day. We are on day 47. In addition, in "A Letter Concerning Toleration," we are on page 27. A time, the 1600s, when the church ran the government and would take everything a person had, even burning them at the stake, unless they worshipped in the Catholic Church or the Church of England. ***FREEDOM OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION*** A religion is what you believe, a philosophy, an ideology.

All men must unanimously agree to being a part of the making of the laws and rules plus punishment. For the protection to worship God freely. Must be fair, just, holy, wholesome, and highly moral. For the goodwill of everyone. Religion can not be enforced using force of arms. Weapons, position, and government. {15a Finishes the thought.) 15a: .....reasons with the instruments of force, which belong to another jurisdiction and do ill become a Churchman’s hands. Let them not call in the magistrate’s authority to the aid of their eloquence or learning, lest perhaps, whilst they pretend only love for the truth, this their intemperate zeal, breathing nothing but fire and sword, betray their ambition and show that what they desire is temporal dominion.} .

.....14b.........This caution and temper they ought certainly to use towards those. who mind only their own business and are solicitous for nothing but that (whatever men think of them), they may worship God in that manner which they are persuaded is acceptable to Him and in which they have the strongest hopes of eternal salvation. In private domestic affairs, in the management of estates, in the conservation of bodily health, every man may consider what suits his own convenience and follow what course he likes best.
DAY 27

The Great 2025 Silver Squeeze Day. PG here. Monday, March 31, 14b, according to the pdf.
fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter Concerning Toleratin PDF.pdf Extra addition to John Locke's "Second Treatise of Government and Letter Concerning Toleration." PG here. I started copying and pasting 1 page of John Locke a day. We are on day 47. In addition, in "A Letter Concerning Toleration," we are on page 27. A time, the 1600s, when the church ran the government and would take everything a person had, even burning them at the stake, unless they worshipped in the Catholic Church or the Church of England.

***FREEDOM OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION*** A religion is what you believe, a philosophy, an ideology. All men must unanimously agree to being a part of the making of the laws and rules plus punishment. For the protection to worship God freely. Must be fair, just, holy, wholesome, and highly moral. For the goodwill of everyone. Religion can not be enforced using force of arms. Weapons, position, and government. {15a Finishes the thought. 15a: .....reasons with the instruments of force, which belong to another jurisdiction and do ill become a Churchman’s hands. Let them not call in the magistrate’s authority to the aid of their eloquence or learning, lest perhaps, whilst they pretend only love for the truth, this their intemperate zeal, breathing nothing but fire and sword, betray their ambition and show that what they desire is temporal dominion.}


14b.........This caution and temper they ought certainly to use towards those. who mind only their own business and are solicitous for nothing but that (whatever men think of them), they may worship God in that manner which they are persuaded is acceptable to Him and in which they have the strongest hopes of eternal salvation. In private domestic affairs, in the management of estates, in the conservation of bodily health, every man may consider what suits his own convenience and follow what course he likes best.
Day 28

PG here Extra addition to john Locke A Letter Concerning Toleration. Page numbers according to the PDF. Today is page 15a of 40 pages according to the PDF. Pretty self-explanatory. John is writing about how, through Jesus Christ, men should have religious toleration for their fellow Christians. People who called themselves Christian would get all fired up and start riots. They would create a group of vigilantes and burn people at the stake. John Locke is writing that it is up to the government or magistrate to make laws and punish men. It isn't the church's responsibility. The church cannot say they are burning someone at the stake or drowning them to try to save their souls. When it comes to a person's salvation as well as his estate and his personal health, it is up to the person. It is neither the affair of the church nor the magistrate to get someone to take good care of their property or their health. Only God can take good care of a person's eternal soul.
 

DAY 29
PG here Wednesday April 2nd, Extra Addition, John Locke "A Letter Concerning Toleration," Page 15b according to the pdf fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Philosophers/Locke/Letter%20Concerning%20Toleratin%20PDF.pdf God does force a person to salvation. John is talking about extra force or pressure on people from the Church of England. Zealots for the Faith. Every person must be led by the voice of God. By the Holy Spirit. No one else can decide how a man may get wealthy or demand all men go to Roman doctors or doctors in Geneva following a certain prescription to be healed. Buskins are laced-up boot; victualler sold liquor or victuals, food or provisions.
15b  Nay, God Himself will not save men against their wills. Let us suppose, however, that some prince were desirous to force his subjects to accumulate riches, or to preserve the health and strength of their bodies. Shall it be provided by law that they must consult none but Roman physicians, and shall everyone be bound to live according to their prescriptions? What, shall no potion, no broth, be taken, but what is prepared either in the Vatican, suppose, or in a Geneva shop? Or, to make these subjects rich, shall they all be obliged by law to become merchants or musicians? 

BUSKINS ARE LACED UP BOOTS

Or, shall everyone turn victualler, or smith, because there are some that maintain their families plentifully and grow rich in those professions? But, it may be said, there are a thousand ways to wealth, but one only way to heaven. It is well said, indeed, especially by those that plead for compelling men into this or the other way. 



For if there were several ways that led thither, there would not be so much as a pretence left for compulsion. But now, if I be marching on with my utmost vigour in that way which, according to the sacred geography, leads straight to Jerusalem, why am I beaten and ill-used by others because, perhaps, I wear not buskins; because my hair is not of the right cut; because, perhaps, I have not been dipped in the right fashion; because I eat flesh upon the road, or some other food which agrees with my
stomach;

















DAY 30

1.) PG here, an extra addition to John Locke's Second Treatise of Civil Government. The second half of the book is A Letter Concerning Toleration. The first book on government is founded on this letter. Real, true Christianity is biblical. It is not today's Christianity. This is Day 30 reading Page 16a according to the pdf: The whole world had come to know the gospel of Jesus Christ and had converted to Christianity. The Catholic Church said everyone must be Catholic, then the Church of England said everyone must be Anglican. In other parts, everyone had to be Orthodox. All the same religion but different ways to believe, practice, carry on, and worship. No one agreed. John Locke is asking, How do you know who is right? Which is the right way? It is very repetitive to things already read in other pages.


........because I avoid certain by-ways, which seem unto me to lead i
nto briars or precipices; because, amongst the several paths that are in the same road, I choose that to walk in which seems to be the straightest and cleanest; because I avoid to keep company with some travellers that are less grave and others that are more sour than they ought to be; or, in fine, because I follow a guide that either is, or is not, clothed in white, or crowned with a mitre? Certainly, if we consider right, we shall find that, for the most part, they are such frivolous things as these that (without any prejudice to religion or the salvation of souls, if not accompanied with superstition or hypocrisy) might either be observed or omitted.

I say they are such-like things as these which breed implacable enmities amongst Christian brethren, who are all agreed in the substantial and truly
fundamental part of religion. But let us grant unto these zealots, who condemn all things that are not of their mode, that from these circumstances are different ends. What shall we conclude from thence? There is only one of these, which is the true way to eternal happiness; but in this great variety of ways that men follow, it is still doubted which is the right one. Now, neither the care of the commonwealth, nor the right enacting of laws, does discover this way that leads to heaven more certainly to the magistrate than every private man’s search and study discovers it unto himself. I have a weak body, sunk under a languishing disease, for which (I suppose) there is one only remedy, but that unknown. Does it therefore belong unto the magistrate to prescribe me a remedy because there is but one and because it is unknown? Because there is but one way for me to escape death, will it therefore be safe for me to do whatsoever the magistrate ordains?